Comments on: Tanking Heroics http://www.tankhard.com/2007/08/30/tanking-heroics/ Tanking Hard since 1876! Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:27:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Bizzam http://www.tankhard.com/2007/08/30/tanking-heroics/comment-page-1/#comment-12 Bizzam Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:21:38 +0000 http://www.tankhard.com/2007/08/30/tanking-heroics/#comment-12 In heroics you will really have to be stacked in terms of gear for avoidance to start possibly hurting your rage generation. As long as you're still getting hit plenty, there's no isssue =) Funny how that mechanic works. The better and better your gear gets, it potentially makes it harder for you to do your job of holding aggro! Thanks for the link on thepositivewarrior, I'll check it out! In heroics you will really have to be stacked in terms of gear for avoidance to start possibly hurting your rage generation. As long as you’re still getting hit plenty, there’s no isssue =)

Funny how that mechanic works. The better and better your gear gets, it potentially makes it harder for you to do your job of holding aggro!

Thanks for the link on thepositivewarrior, I’ll check it out!

]]> By: Nigh http://www.tankhard.com/2007/08/30/tanking-heroics/comment-page-1/#comment-10 Nigh Fri, 31 Aug 2007 10:38:11 +0000 http://www.tankhard.com/2007/08/30/tanking-heroics/#comment-10 Yes, I was just wondering about your advice to try to keep avoidance less in focus specifically for heroics. The stuff I have is what you could expect from someone venturing to heroics for the first time, mostly as good blues as one can get from normal-mode dungeons with a couple of crafted epics. I've tried to find best-in-slot items from those while focusing on avoidance (dodge rating after 490) Haven't done a lot of heroics yet but so far I've had no problems building rage there. I can definitely see the difference compared to normal mode. Badge rewards are nice because you know you'll get them eventually, a 5% drop rate means it's not that far-fetched I'll be still trying to get the Sun Eater 6 months from now if I decide to try and go for it. With the Azure Shield of Coldarra I know I won't get it next run but I'm certain I will after a few. It's very much the same as a quest asking you to kill 15 raptors versus one where you need to collect 5 eyeballs from them but the droprate is just 15%. Thanks for a great blog, I just happened to find my way here yesterday. Have you found thepositivewarrior.blogspot.com yet? It's one more tanking blog to keep an eye on. :) Yes, I was just wondering about your advice to try to keep avoidance less in focus specifically for heroics. The stuff I have is what you could expect from someone venturing to heroics for the first time, mostly as good blues as one can get from normal-mode dungeons with a couple of crafted epics. I’ve tried to find best-in-slot items from those while focusing on avoidance (dodge rating after 490)

Haven’t done a lot of heroics yet but so far I’ve had no problems building rage there. I can definitely see the difference compared to normal mode.

Badge rewards are nice because you know you’ll get them eventually, a 5% drop rate means it’s not that far-fetched I’ll be still trying to get the Sun Eater 6 months from now if I decide to try and go for it. With the Azure Shield of Coldarra I know I won’t get it next run but I’m certain I will after a few. It’s very much the same as a quest asking you to kill 15 raptors versus one where you need to collect 5 eyeballs from them but the droprate is just 15%.

Thanks for a great blog, I just happened to find my way here yesterday. Have you found thepositivewarrior.blogspot.com yet? It’s one more tanking blog to keep an eye on. :)

]]> By: Bizzam http://www.tankhard.com/2007/08/30/tanking-heroics/comment-page-1/#comment-9 Bizzam Fri, 31 Aug 2007 02:17:30 +0000 http://www.tankhard.com/2007/08/30/tanking-heroics/#comment-9 Yes, you are correct on the 485, but personally I don't like playing around with cutting edges and being in a position where my raid gear ends up not quite there when I really need it to be without realizing it! Good point though! I favor mitigation more for consistent rage generation. Your burn rate on rage is always something to keep in mind. High mitigation will keep a steady stream of rage whereas high avoidance could put you in a position of a rage drought. Honestly with your avoidance numbers, that is probably more than fine. I feel I got lucky with my Sun Eater, only took me 7 runs to get mine! Sadly I don't really have any target gear left to shoot for out of heroics other than badge bought items, so now I just run heroics for badges. I would love to get a [item]The Fel Barrier[/item] for my shadow resist set, but Prince can be a PITA! Yes, you are correct on the 485, but personally I don’t like playing around with cutting edges and being in a position where my raid gear ends up not quite there when I really need it to be without realizing it! Good point though!

I favor mitigation more for consistent rage generation. Your burn rate on rage is always something to keep in mind. High mitigation will keep a steady stream of rage whereas high avoidance could put you in a position of a rage drought. Honestly with your avoidance numbers, that is probably more than fine.

I feel I got lucky with my Sun Eater, only took me 7 runs to get mine!

Sadly I don’t really have any target gear left to shoot for out of heroics other than badge bought items, so now I just run heroics for badges. I would love to get a [item]The Fel Barrier[/item] for my shadow resist set, but Prince can be a PITA!

]]> By: Nigh http://www.tankhard.com/2007/08/30/tanking-heroics/comment-page-1/#comment-8 Nigh Thu, 30 Aug 2007 23:49:42 +0000 http://www.tankhard.com/2007/08/30/tanking-heroics/#comment-8 For heroics, you only need 485 defense to be uncrittable I've read. This is because there are no level 73 mobs. I'm also wondering why you think mitigation is more important than avoidance for them, in my experience with a gear that's reasonably good and around 22% dodge, 16 parry & block I get plenty of rage from the heroic mobs. I don't know if you'd consider those numbers high on avoidance but I've certainly tried to acquire that sort of gear and it probably show a bit in that I only have about 12k HP. Nice list of potentially useful tanking gear there too. The Sun Eater would certainly be nice, a 5% drop rate may just mean that it'll take a very long time to get. :P For heroics, you only need 485 defense to be uncrittable I’ve read. This is because there are no level 73 mobs.

I’m also wondering why you think mitigation is more important than avoidance for them, in my experience with a gear that’s reasonably good and around 22% dodge, 16 parry & block I get plenty of rage from the heroic mobs. I don’t know if you’d consider those numbers high on avoidance but I’ve certainly tried to acquire that sort of gear and it probably show a bit in that I only have about 12k HP.

Nice list of potentially useful tanking gear there too. The Sun Eater would certainly be nice, a 5% drop rate may just mean that it’ll take a very long time to get. :P

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